Comments on: Think children, what does it all mean? http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/ The future is cool. Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:24:48 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Darrell http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-72 Darrell Thu, 12 Feb 2009 16:08:07 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-72 So it appears that 1up has indeed remained largely the same in spite of our worst fears. The Milkman has returned, and things seem to be rolling along much the same as they did before the buy-out. So...it seems that for the most-part, our fears were premature. I guess that Rosenberg was really on to something here after all. So it appears that 1up has indeed remained largely the same in spite of our worst fears. The Milkman has returned, and things seem to be rolling along much the same as they did before the buy-out. So…it seems that for the most-part, our fears were premature. I guess that Rosenberg was really on to something here after all.

]]> By: Sesso http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-62 Sesso Sat, 24 Jan 2009 10:55:25 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-62 Great site. Great site.

]]> By: geminibros http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-49 geminibros Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:51:03 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-49 @ JRiv: Your argument is a bit misinformed. UGO bought 1up, not EGM and not the cost-ineffective podcasts. Those layoffs were Ziff's doing and they happened (broadly) because of the publisher's mismanagement of the property. A wider range of ads, and from non-gaming companies, could have earned EGM more dollars. Those popular podcasts also could have been leveraged better - i.e. at all - to provide revenue. I don't know why changes like these didn't (or couldn't) happen, but UGO certainly had nothing to do with it. They simply bought a potentially excellent gaming news/criticism destination which was mired by the weight of its own fail. How things go from here remains to be seen, but I think you're going to be waiting a lot longer for 1up T&A than you believe. @ JRiv:

Your argument is a bit misinformed. UGO bought 1up, not EGM and not the cost-ineffective podcasts. Those layoffs were Ziff’s doing and they happened (broadly) because of the publisher’s mismanagement of the property. A wider range of ads, and from non-gaming companies, could have earned EGM more dollars. Those popular podcasts also could have been leveraged better – i.e. at all – to provide revenue.

I don’t know why changes like these didn’t (or couldn’t) happen, but UGO certainly had nothing to do with it. They simply bought a potentially excellent gaming news/criticism destination which was mired by the weight of its own fail. How things go from here remains to be seen, but I think you’re going to be waiting a lot longer for 1up T&A than you believe.

]]> By: JRiv http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-48 JRiv Sat, 10 Jan 2009 21:41:16 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-48 Sam Kennedy can speak so level headed because it wasn't his ass just shoved out the door with a security guard escort.. No one is say that business isint business, but what we have here is corporate culture at it's worst, showing that the talent behind a publication isint worth a damn, and that, if they could, they'd have a magazine consisting of nothing but ads. Pretty soon what's left of 1up will be a tits and ass site, then I want to see how many of your UGO defenders still believe the nonsense that I'm reading here.. Sam Kennedy can speak so level headed because it wasn’t his ass just shoved out the door with a security guard escort..

No one is say that business isint business, but what we have here is corporate culture at it’s worst, showing that the talent behind a publication isint worth a damn, and that, if they could, they’d have a magazine consisting of nothing but ads.

Pretty soon what’s left of 1up will be a tits and ass site, then I want to see how many of your UGO defenders still believe the nonsense that I’m reading here..

]]> By: MrCHUPON http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-39 MrCHUPON Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:13:27 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-39 Is this how it really went down, Rene? (I'm not challenging you; rather, I just want confirmation of some sort.) From what I've seen and been through myself it's more often than not the purchasing company that surveys the incoming (purchased) staff and determines who to axe and who to keep, a la "The Bobs" from Office Space. (As I'm a consultant myself, I was talking with a colleague of mine who had to do exactly what "The Bobs" did, and it freaked him out a bit...) Is this how it really went down, Rene? (I’m not challenging you; rather, I just want confirmation of some sort.) From what I’ve seen and been through myself it’s more often than not the purchasing company that surveys the incoming (purchased) staff and determines who to axe and who to keep, a la “The Bobs” from Office Space. (As I’m a consultant myself, I was talking with a colleague of mine who had to do exactly what “The Bobs” did, and it freaked him out a bit…)

]]> By: Rene Rosa http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-38 Rene Rosa Thu, 08 Jan 2009 14:37:17 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-38 I think another thing that people don't seem to realize is that UGO didn't fire anyone. ZD cleaned house and UGO picked up the pieces and then hired those they could without the intention of of a shady takeover. I can understand being passionate about something you enjoy but to focus all your anger and hatred on the people that are actually responsible for keeping some form of it alive, albeit a smaller/different version for now, just makes no sense. I think another thing that people don’t seem to realize is that UGO didn’t fire anyone. ZD cleaned house and UGO picked up the pieces and then hired those they could without the intention of of a shady takeover.

I can understand being passionate about something you enjoy but to focus all your anger and hatred on the people that are actually responsible for keeping some form of it alive, albeit a smaller/different version for now, just makes no sense.

]]> By: brukhar http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-35 brukhar Thu, 08 Jan 2009 07:04:01 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-35 It's really depressing that 1up is going down. The gaming industry seems to be changing so much lately. It’s really depressing that 1up is going down. The gaming industry seems to be changing so much lately.

]]> By: Crunch n' Munch http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-34 Crunch n' Munch Thu, 08 Jan 2009 01:35:45 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-34 The UGO CEO answers some questions: http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/01/07/ugo-chief-tells-us-his-side-of-1up-purchase-saga/ The UGO CEO answers some questions:

http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/2009/01/07/ugo-chief-tells-us-his-side-of-1up-purchase-saga/

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]]> By: nintenjoe http://geminibros.wordpress.com/2009/01/07/think-children-what-does-it-all-mean/#comment-32 nintenjoe Wed, 07 Jan 2009 23:32:31 +0000 http://geminibros.wordpress.com/?p=37#comment-32 Okay, last night I was angry. I've cooled and came to some common sense but still find myself very depressed on the matter. Yes, I have to keep going to 1up because there are still very excellent editors still there(so far) Garnett Lee, Scott Sharkey, and Jeremy Parish to name the ones I can think of. HOWEVER, the reason I'm most depressed of it? The podcasts, the somewhat more personal interactions(PAX 1up Yours), etc. We got to know these personalities even more than just the writings on the site. These were podcasts that have been going for 3 some years. They seem to be going to the wayside from this aquisition. The biggest reason I visited 1up was I eagerly awaited the next 1up Yours, the 1up Show, Retronauts, back in the day CGW/GFW Live podcast, etc. These are all GONE! Editors I loved are gone and their personalities like Milky and Shane and Skip and so many others! I don't know exactly why I would go back except to at least help out the editors I previously mentioned, as they are also amazing guys. Just the site won't be the same without all the rest... and I don't know if I can find myself going back as frequently as I did without their amazing podcasts. Okay, last night I was angry. I’ve cooled and came to some common sense but still find myself very depressed on the matter. Yes, I have to keep going to 1up because there are still very excellent editors still there(so far) Garnett Lee, Scott Sharkey, and Jeremy Parish to name the ones I can think of. HOWEVER, the reason I’m most depressed of it? The podcasts, the somewhat more personal interactions(PAX 1up Yours), etc. We got to know these personalities even more than just the writings on the site. These were podcasts that have been going for 3 some years. They seem to be going to the wayside from this aquisition. The biggest reason I visited 1up was I eagerly awaited the next 1up Yours, the 1up Show, Retronauts, back in the day CGW/GFW Live podcast, etc. These are all GONE! Editors I loved are gone and their personalities like Milky and Shane and Skip and so many others! I don’t know exactly why I would go back except to at least help out the editors I previously mentioned, as they are also amazing guys. Just the site won’t be the same without all the rest… and I don’t know if I can find myself going back as frequently as I did without their amazing podcasts.

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